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		<title>By: AvidElite</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-2#comment-28765</link>
		<dc:creator>AvidElite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hardware and Software raids have their own pros and cons.  While hardware raids are faster, a failure of the controller card means searching for a new one, and controller chips change very often.  It may be very hard to find a replacement controller that can just accept your existing raid drives.  Software raid avoids that issue, but there is a performance hit since your system processor is needed for parity calculation and that does take cycles regardless how optimized.  I have 4x 2TB drives in a Radi5 array on Ubuntu Server, using the mdadm software raid, and it&#039;s working just fine.  The performance hit doesn&#039;t matter since all that space is used for network shares.

In short, you need to know the pros and cons and decide for yourself what risks are worth what benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hardware and Software raids have their own pros and cons.  While hardware raids are faster, a failure of the controller card means searching for a new one, and controller chips change very often.  It may be very hard to find a replacement controller that can just accept your existing raid drives.  Software raid avoids that issue, but there is a performance hit since your system processor is needed for parity calculation and that does take cycles regardless how optimized.  I have 4x 2TB drives in a Radi5 array on Ubuntu Server, using the mdadm software raid, and it&#039;s working just fine.  The performance hit doesn&#039;t matter since all that space is used for network shares.</p>
<p>In short, you need to know the pros and cons and decide for yourself what risks are worth what benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: lcruisader</title>
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		<dc:creator>lcruisader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 00:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Mr. Unrein question - the built in array controller in the msa doesn&#039;t support logical volumes over 2TB. Sadly. Use the Compaq/HP ACU array config utility to configure your logical volumes (with raid) (looks like you&#039;ll get 3 logical disks 2, 2tb and maybe 1tb?) then use Microsoft&#039;s disk management mmc to create your spanned volume. Voila, 1 drive letter and about 5tb of usable fault tolerant space. The fault tolerance is what you chose during the logical drive setup. So if you choose raid 5, then you can lose 1 drive. If you do raid 6 you can lose 2 drives. 

I told you that so I can ask this: using the scenario as Mr. Unrein&#039;s here, I want to extend the space on my MSA which uses sata drives connected to a Compaq Array controller 642.. On a different array controller, a 5300 series controller from Compaq are SCSI disks. I created 1 logical disk, raid 5. In the disk management console I converted the disk to dynamic. What issues does anyone see with extending the volume on to this dissimilar hardware?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Mr. Unrein question &#8211; the built in array controller in the msa doesn&#039;t support logical volumes over 2TB. Sadly. Use the Compaq/HP ACU array config utility to configure your logical volumes (with raid) (looks like you&#039;ll get 3 logical disks 2, 2tb and maybe 1tb?) then use Microsoft&#039;s disk management mmc to create your spanned volume. Voila, 1 drive letter and about 5tb of usable fault tolerant space. The fault tolerance is what you chose during the logical drive setup. So if you choose raid 5, then you can lose 1 drive. If you do raid 6 you can lose 2 drives. </p>
<p>I told you that so I can ask this: using the scenario as Mr. Unrein&#039;s here, I want to extend the space on my MSA which uses sata drives connected to a Compaq Array controller 642.. On a different array controller, a 5300 series controller from Compaq are SCSI disks. I created 1 logical disk, raid 5. In the disk management console I converted the disk to dynamic. What issues does anyone see with extending the volume on to this dissimilar hardware?</p>
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		<title>By: Carlton Bale</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-26212</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlton Bale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 16:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Davinci</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-26207</link>
		<dc:creator>Davinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay said:
&quot;Davinci: The other 6,692,030,276 entities inhabiting this planet are not here specifically to provide for your needs. It might be nice to thank someone who takes the time and effort to write out even &quot;part&quot; of what you wanted to know.&quot;

Point taken and assimilated...

Thank you Carlton Bale for your efforts.

Cheers. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay said:<br />
&#034;Davinci: The other 6,692,030,276 entities inhabiting this planet are not here specifically to provide for your needs. It might be nice to thank someone who takes the time and effort to write out even &#034;part&#034; of what you wanted to know.&#034;</p>
<p>Point taken and assimilated&#8230;</p>
<p>Thank you Carlton Bale for your efforts.</p>
<p>Cheers. <img src='http://carltonbale.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. Thanks.  
No problems finding the diskpart information, but was even easier to accomplish in the Windows Server 2003 disk management tool.

I used the general Windows GPT with a slight twist, since I wanted two partitions, one for system/OS other for data, on a single large RAID6 set using a Promise Fastrak hardware RAID card. So, I made one RAID6 volume of 100GB and a second RAID6 volume (both striped across the same set of 6 x 2TB disks) of the remaining 7.9TB.  This way the OS sees two seperate logical disks - one partitioned as MBR for the OS boot, the other converted to GPT for a larger data disk.

Originally, I setup one large RAID volume, but as soon as I created the first OS-level partition for the OS installation on the logical drive, I could not find any way to make the remaining space a GPT partition.

BTW...
Davinci: The other 6,692,030,276 entities inhabiting this planet are not here specifically to provide for your needs.  It might be nice to thank someone who takes the time and effort to write out even &quot;part&quot; of what you wanted to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. Thanks.<br />
No problems finding the diskpart information, but was even easier to accomplish in the Windows Server 2003 disk management tool.</p>
<p>I used the general Windows GPT with a slight twist, since I wanted two partitions, one for system/OS other for data, on a single large RAID6 set using a Promise Fastrak hardware RAID card. So, I made one RAID6 volume of 100GB and a second RAID6 volume (both striped across the same set of 6 x 2TB disks) of the remaining 7.9TB.  This way the OS sees two seperate logical disks &#8211; one partitioned as MBR for the OS boot, the other converted to GPT for a larger data disk.</p>
<p>Originally, I setup one large RAID volume, but as soon as I created the first OS-level partition for the OS installation on the logical drive, I could not find any way to make the remaining space a GPT partition.</p>
<p>BTW&#8230;<br />
Davinci: The other 6,692,030,276 entities inhabiting this planet are not here specifically to provide for your needs.  It might be nice to thank someone who takes the time and effort to write out even &#034;part&#034; of what you wanted to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Davinci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahjohng

That is correct.  After created 2 logical disk drives in your RAID controller one with 80GB the other with the rest of the space you can open up disk manager you will see your 80GB DRIVE (not a partition) for the OS. Below that will be another DRIVE split into 2 partitions, one is 2TB the other is the rest of the space.  Right Click the *text* &quot;Disk 1&quot; and select &quot;Convert to GPT&quot; and the split will disappear.

Then format or partition as you normally would.

Easy as pie but some have to make it SOOOOO complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahjohng</p>
<p>That is correct.  After created 2 logical disk drives in your RAID controller one with 80GB the other with the rest of the space you can open up disk manager you will see your 80GB DRIVE (not a partition) for the OS. Below that will be another DRIVE split into 2 partitions, one is 2TB the other is the rest of the space.  Right Click the *text* &#034;Disk 1&#034; and select &#034;Convert to GPT&#034; and the split will disappear.</p>
<p>Then format or partition as you normally would.</p>
<p>Easy as pie but some have to make it SOOOOO complex.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahjohng</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-25445</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahjohng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was equally confused as Davinci was until reading this one.

Basically, I want to create a partition with  something like 80GB for Windows 7 x64 with RAID 10 spanning 4 1TB disks.  Leave the rest of unparititioned volume alone for now.  Then, in the operating system, I want to partition the other volume to GPT.  In doing so, I should have 2.6TB of RAID 5.

Is this correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was equally confused as Davinci was until reading this one.</p>
<p>Basically, I want to create a partition with  something like 80GB for Windows 7 x64 with RAID 10 spanning 4 1TB disks.  Leave the rest of unparititioned volume alone for now.  Then, in the operating system, I want to partition the other volume to GPT.  In doing so, I should have 2.6TB of RAID 5.</p>
<p>Is this correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Davinci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 00:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Maybe I should not have bitched so much but it gets frustrating reading article after article on the subject that goes into a long diatribe about info you do not need.  You get to the point where you want to strangle someone for failing to provide the HOW!  You begin to contemplate are you the only one who wants to know how to accomplish a task instead of understand the technical details of the outcome?

How hard is it to say to enable GPT you need to create 2 drives on your raid controller one to store the OS and the other for data as the OS can not be easily installed on a GPT drive.  Once you installed Windows run diskpart or use the windows computer management, select &quot;disk management&quot; then right click the section that says &quot;drive 1&quot; and select &quot;Convert to GPT Disk&quot;.

Then Boom you have you 16TB drive all in one place like you wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Maybe I should not have bitched so much but it gets frustrating reading article after article on the subject that goes into a long diatribe about info you do not need.  You get to the point where you want to strangle someone for failing to provide the HOW!  You begin to contemplate are you the only one who wants to know how to accomplish a task instead of understand the technical details of the outcome?</p>
<p>How hard is it to say to enable GPT you need to create 2 drives on your raid controller one to store the OS and the other for data as the OS can not be easily installed on a GPT drive.  Once you installed Windows run diskpart or use the windows computer management, select &#034;disk management&#034; then right click the section that says &#034;drive 1&#034; and select &#034;Convert to GPT Disk&#034;.</p>
<p>Then Boom you have you 16TB drive all in one place like you wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlton Bale</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-24308</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlton Bale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>24TB - wow!  That&#039;s one massive volume.  I&#039;m right at the 10TB mark and need some more space, but not yet that much.

Glad you found this useful and thanks for the feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>24TB &#8211; wow!  That&#039;s one massive volume.  I&#039;m right at the 10TB mark and need some more space, but not yet that much.</p>
<p>Glad you found this useful and thanks for the feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: MP</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-24302</link>
		<dc:creator>MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this reply in your thread and chuckled... It&#039;s funny, I was down the same path as Davinci and I figured it out on my own, with some help from Carlton, but I didn&#039;t b1tch about researching. It&#039;s called knowledge for a reason, some one can&#039;t give you that, you have to learn IT. geeesh. I give you mad props Carlton for dealing with crap like this.

Oh, btw... with your kind words, and a gentle nudge in the right direction, I was able to find the research I needed to help me build out 24Tb. Quite nice, but I am now looking into a better backup system. =p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this reply in your thread and chuckled&#8230; It&#039;s funny, I was down the same path as Davinci and I figured it out on my own, with some help from Carlton, but I didn&#039;t b1tch about researching. It&#039;s called knowledge for a reason, some one can&#039;t give you that, you have to learn IT. geeesh. I give you mad props Carlton for dealing with crap like this.</p>
<p>Oh, btw&#8230; with your kind words, and a gentle nudge in the right direction, I was able to find the research I needed to help me build out 24Tb. Quite nice, but I am now looking into a better backup system. =p</p>
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		<title>By: Carlton Bale</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-24075</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlton Bale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 04:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davinci:

I respond to questions; this is apparent from the comments on this post.  If you have a question or suggestion, please post it. If you want to complain about the information I provide for no other reason than to help others, please don&#039;t.

This post explains that you need GPT to access volumes over 2 TB in Windows. If you want to know &quot;how to format GPT&quot; then, click the link at the end of the GPT paragraph for &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773223%28WS.10%29.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read this Microsoft TechNet article for more details on GPT.&lt;/a&gt;&quot; It explains GPT, mentions diskpart, and links to pages explaining how to use it as well as the Disk Management Console. I provided the link with the information you needed at the end of paragraph you were referencing.

This post is not intended to be an instructional on how to use Windows, how to configure specific RAID controllers, or how to use software RAID within Linux. All of those topics are mentioned and each would warrant a unique post to even start to explore them. Microsoft Technet does a great job of documenting Windows; I see no need to reproduce that when I can simply link to it instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davinci:</p>
<p>I respond to questions; this is apparent from the comments on this post.  If you have a question or suggestion, please post it. If you want to complain about the information I provide for no other reason than to help others, please don&#039;t.</p>
<p>This post explains that you need GPT to access volumes over 2 TB in Windows. If you want to know &#034;how to format GPT&#034; then, click the link at the end of the GPT paragraph for &#034;<a href="http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773223%28WS.10%29.aspx" rel="nofollow">Read this Microsoft TechNet article for more details on GPT.</a>&#034; It explains GPT, mentions diskpart, and links to pages explaining how to use it as well as the Disk Management Console. I provided the link with the information you needed at the end of paragraph you were referencing.</p>
<p>This post is not intended to be an instructional on how to use Windows, how to configure specific RAID controllers, or how to use software RAID within Linux. All of those topics are mentioned and each would warrant a unique post to even start to explore them. Microsoft Technet does a great job of documenting Windows; I see no need to reproduce that when I can simply link to it instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Davinci</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-24049</link>
		<dc:creator>Davinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DISKPART.EXE
DISKPART
DIKSPART



I understood everything that was written in this info/blog.

It&#039;s provided detailed information on what I want just not how to accomplish it.

Please explain to me the logic of explaining what someone wants but not explaining how to accomplish it.

The program name that was left out was diskpart.

Know how hard would it been for the author to say &quot;use Diskpart in Windows to create a GPT&quot;.

He did not even need to explain how to use it as it gave the reader a chance to do another search and learn the application.

It took me forever to find that small piece of information because everyone assumed that everyone knows that diskpart will create a GPT.

Hopefully someone searching and finds this blog will not be left in the dark like I was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DISKPART.EXE<br />
DISKPART<br />
DIKSPART</p>
<p>I understood everything that was written in this info/blog.</p>
<p>It&#039;s provided detailed information on what I want just not how to accomplish it.</p>
<p>Please explain to me the logic of explaining what someone wants but not explaining how to accomplish it.</p>
<p>The program name that was left out was diskpart.</p>
<p>Know how hard would it been for the author to say &#034;use Diskpart in Windows to create a GPT&#034;.</p>
<p>He did not even need to explain how to use it as it gave the reader a chance to do another search and learn the application.</p>
<p>It took me forever to find that small piece of information because everyone assumed that everyone knows that diskpart will create a GPT.</p>
<p>Hopefully someone searching and finds this blog will not be left in the dark like I was.</p>
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		<title>By: dataCore</title>
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		<dc:creator>dataCore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey &quot;davinci&quot;: Ritalin?

pls stay polite and ask what PART did you not understand!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey &#034;davinci&#034;: Ritalin?</p>
<p>pls stay polite and ask what PART did you not understand!</p>
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		<title>By: Davinci</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-24012</link>
		<dc:creator>Davinci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 23:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for virtually nothing...
All I wanted was my extra space over 2TB.  What I learned was GUID Partition Tables are how you get access to drives greater than 2TB.

Great! I am real smart now except I do not know...

HOW THE F*** DO I FORMAT IT TO GPT!

If I wrote this blog I would say...

Hey you want to access data over 2TB run this &quot;name here&quot; it will convert it a GUID Partition Tables (GPT) and you must use Win 64x or higher. (then continue with the rest of BS for google search)

Notice in one sentence a person could learn everything the really WANT to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for virtually nothing&#8230;<br />
All I wanted was my extra space over 2TB.  What I learned was GUID Partition Tables are how you get access to drives greater than 2TB.</p>
<p>Great! I am real smart now except I do not know&#8230;</p>
<p>HOW THE F*** DO I FORMAT IT TO GPT!</p>
<p>If I wrote this blog I would say&#8230;</p>
<p>Hey you want to access data over 2TB run this &#034;name here&#034; it will convert it a GUID Partition Tables (GPT) and you must use Win 64x or higher. (then continue with the rest of BS for google search)</p>
<p>Notice in one sentence a person could learn everything the really WANT to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Monaghan</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-18820</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Monaghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Calvin. Sorry mate but i think you got your signals more than a little crossed in your posting..... 
to summarize

Windows XP 32bit has NO 2TB limit
NTFS has NO 2TB limit
MBR partitions DO have 2TB limits
Windows XP 32bit windows uses MBR partitions 

The trick is to uses Windows XP 32bit and NTFS BUT not use Windows 32bit to partition and then format the drive.

1) When we say 32bit or 64bit versions of windows we are referring to how much addressable memory the o/s can see/use/read/write which has nothing to do with disk drives. Indeed 32bits is 4GB of addressability NOT 2TB.
2 )Surprise !! Windows XP 32bit can use hard drives (and prtiotions) well beyond 2TB (thats a direct copy from Microsoft). The 2TB limit isnt in windows, its the use of MBR partitions by 32bit Windows which causes the restriction. XP 32bit can also use FAT32 etc and each of those has its own limit too but no one seems to be claiming those as limits anymore.
3) 32bit windows does not support GUID partions and so the myth of windows itself having a 2tb limit has been born.
4) if correctly configured windows 32bit can actually read (only) 4TB GPUID drives but not create or write to them.
5) additionally NTFS has no 2TB limit, and windows is quite happy to use non-microsoft partitioning tools to create &gt; 2TB volumes/partitions that NTFS is happy to format under 32/64bit windows.
6) one more common way is to use a raid card with utilities to make larger partions (not MBR or GPUID) and format them with NTFS. These partions can not be created with windows 32bit, but work just fine for read/write under 32bit windows becauses its how the drive is presented to windows that counts, not how many bytes are involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Calvin. Sorry mate but i think you got your signals more than a little crossed in your posting&#8230;..<br />
to summarize</p>
<p>Windows XP 32bit has NO 2TB limit<br />
NTFS has NO 2TB limit<br />
MBR partitions DO have 2TB limits<br />
Windows XP 32bit windows uses MBR partitions </p>
<p>The trick is to uses Windows XP 32bit and NTFS BUT not use Windows 32bit to partition and then format the drive.</p>
<p>1) When we say 32bit or 64bit versions of windows we are referring to how much addressable memory the o/s can see/use/read/write which has nothing to do with disk drives. Indeed 32bits is 4GB of addressability NOT 2TB.<br />
2 )Surprise !! Windows XP 32bit can use hard drives (and prtiotions) well beyond 2TB (thats a direct copy from Microsoft). The 2TB limit isnt in windows, its the use of MBR partitions by 32bit Windows which causes the restriction. XP 32bit can also use FAT32 etc and each of those has its own limit too but no one seems to be claiming those as limits anymore.<br />
3) 32bit windows does not support GUID partions and so the myth of windows itself having a 2tb limit has been born.<br />
4) if correctly configured windows 32bit can actually read (only) 4TB GPUID drives but not create or write to them.<br />
5) additionally NTFS has no 2TB limit, and windows is quite happy to use non-microsoft partitioning tools to create &gt; 2TB volumes/partitions that NTFS is happy to format under 32/64bit windows.<br />
6) one more common way is to use a raid card with utilities to make larger partions (not MBR or GPUID) and format them with NTFS. These partions can not be created with windows 32bit, but work just fine for read/write under 32bit windows becauses its how the drive is presented to windows that counts, not how many bytes are involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Thomas</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-18798</link>
		<dc:creator>Calvin Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that is the problem that Carlton is refering to. Specifically, you can&#039;t access over 2 TB of data using a 32 bit operating system.  The problem is that 32bits is 2 TB.
In order to address more than 32 bits (2TB)in windows XP, you have to insert a method to page hard drive space in and out.
That is effectivly what a disk partition does. It allows you to go above the limit by adding another addressing &quot;bit&quot; in the form of a drive letter.  But hoping for XP to natively support more than 32 bits on a 32 bit operating system is not going to happen....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think that is the problem that Carlton is refering to. Specifically, you can&#039;t access over 2 TB of data using a 32 bit operating system.  The problem is that 32bits is 2 TB.<br />
In order to address more than 32 bits (2TB)in windows XP, you have to insert a method to page hard drive space in and out.<br />
That is effectivly what a disk partition does. It allows you to go above the limit by adding another addressing &#034;bit&#034; in the form of a drive letter.  But hoping for XP to natively support more than 32 bits on a 32 bit operating system is not going to happen&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Monaghan</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-18665</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Monaghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 06:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carlton. I do have VMWare and Vitualbox on the 64bit boot drives so I will try those out.
FYI : I have found one way to achieve what i wanted, using only built in windows utilities but the speed is not acceptable. Mainly involves using dynamic disks and spanning them.
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carlton. I do have VMWare and Vitualbox on the 64bit boot drives so I will try those out.<br />
FYI : I have found one way to achieve what i wanted, using only built in windows utilities but the speed is not acceptable. Mainly involves using dynamic disks and spanning them.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Carlton Bale</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-18609</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlton Bale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, I think what you are wanting to do is not possible with older operating systems such as XP 32-bit (it&#039;s 2001-era technology.) The only way to get close to this is to create an XP virtual machine and have it go through the host operating system to get to the volumes.  Microsoft Virtual PC and Sun VirtualBox are 2 free solutions. Otherwise, I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, I think what you are wanting to do is not possible with older operating systems such as XP 32-bit (it&#039;s 2001-era technology.) The only way to get close to this is to create an XP virtual machine and have it go through the host operating system to get to the volumes.  Microsoft Virtual PC and Sun VirtualBox are 2 free solutions. Otherwise, I don&#039;t believe it&#039;s possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Monaghan</title>
		<link>http://carltonbale.com/how-to-break-the-2tb-2-terabyte-file-system-limit/comment-page-1#comment-18317</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Monaghan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 08:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be very interested in anyones views on my problem.
Like quite a few people i use multi-boot (windows vista 64bit ,vista 64bit and XP 32bit) on 3 WD Velociraptors. I also have 6 x 2t in the pc and 24 x 1tb in 2 external esata towers.
What i need to do is to create 3 internal 4tb raid volumes (striped) and 4 external 4tb raid volumes (striped) NO RAID 5.
this will be presented to windows as 7 x 4tb drives.
Now this is easy under Vista &amp; Windows 7 but as i multi boot i need these to be available to windows xp 32bit also.
My external towers are raid, so is my mother board and i have LSI SAS 3041E-R 4-PORT SATA RAID PCI EXPRESS CONTROLLER available to me.

So i think there is no problem creating the raids but how do i make 4TBs that work with ALL my multiboot systems??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be very interested in anyones views on my problem.<br />
Like quite a few people i use multi-boot (windows vista 64bit ,vista 64bit and XP 32bit) on 3 WD Velociraptors. I also have 6 x 2t in the pc and 24 x 1tb in 2 external esata towers.<br />
What i need to do is to create 3 internal 4tb raid volumes (striped) and 4 external 4tb raid volumes (striped) NO RAID 5.<br />
this will be presented to windows as 7 x 4tb drives.<br />
Now this is easy under Vista &amp; Windows 7 but as i multi boot i need these to be available to windows xp 32bit also.<br />
My external towers are raid, so is my mother board and i have LSI SAS 3041E-R 4-PORT SATA RAID PCI EXPRESS CONTROLLER available to me.</p>
<p>So i think there is no problem creating the raids but how do i make 4TBs that work with ALL my multiboot systems??</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] applies to x64, seems like I see contradicting info? Anyway&#8230; Blah Blah Blah, hope this helps!!) CarltonBale.com How to Break the 2TB (2 TeraByte) File System Limit  You cannot install or start Windows Vista when the volume of the system partition is larger than 2 [...]</p>
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